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Man shot in gentleman's club parking lot dies
Man shot in gentleman's club parking lot dies
Published by News Bot
April 23rd, 2008
Man shot in gentleman's club parking lot dies

One of the men shot over the weekend outside an Ascension Parish gentlemen's club has died.

Matthew Pittman was allegedly one of two other men who attacked a black man outside the Suthern Kumfort gentlemen's club Sunday morning.

Detectives say Peter Stephens was attacked and stabbed.

Deputies say he later pulled out a gun and shot at the three men, hitting two of them.
The death of Pittman now changes Stephens' charges to manslaughter and attempted manslaughter.

Luther Powell and John Schoen were also arrested.
They are charged with attempting to murder Stephens and hate crimes.

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By BR Today on April 23rd, 2008, 08:15 AM
Let me make sure i'm straight on this. 2 guys attack and STAB Stephens. Stephens retrieves a gun and shoots them and HE gets charged with a crime?

Am I missing something in this story or is it safe to say that if you get stabbed, you have no grounds to answer with lethal force?
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By Sunny on April 23rd, 2008, 10:23 AM
He probably went to his car, got the gun, and then came back shooting.

You can't claim self defense when you have a chance to escape, or it's over, and you come back for seconds.
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By mudbug on April 23rd, 2008, 09:29 PM
ok, I want to know which one was the pimp and which one was the john?
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By BrentW on April 24th, 2008, 02:24 AM
Originally Posted by BR Today View Post
Let me make sure i'm straight on this. 2 guys attack and STAB Stephens. Stephens retrieves a gun and shoots them and HE gets charged with a crime?

Am I missing something in this story or is it safe to say that if you get stabbed, you have no grounds to answer with lethal force?
Yep. His mistake was leaving and returning to the fight. He should have had the gun with him ready for use. I think it may have been a racial problem. Well, that and the fact everyone was probably drunk hustling the same stripper in the bar.
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By BR Today on April 24th, 2008, 08:04 AM
Originally Posted by BrentW View Post
Yep. His mistake was leaving and returning to the fight. He should have had the gun with him ready for use. I think it may have been a racial problem. Well, that and the fact everyone was probably drunk hustling the same stripper in the bar.
Well the article was very vague about the time that elapsed between the stabbing and the shootings. I personally can't blame the guy for what he did. 'Later' could mean 10 seconds after he was stabbed, but it could also mean 10 minutes. One way or the other, he should at least have reduced charges given the circumstances.

On a lighter note, they wouldn't have these fights over the girls there if they would quit hiring strippers with a full set of teeth. There's just not enough of 'them good ones' to go around so fights break out in the parking lot.
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By Unregistered on June 1st, 2008, 07:50 PM
Raised in La

Originally Posted by BR Today View Post
Let me make sure i'm straight on this. 2 guys attack and STAB Stephens. Stephens retrieves a gun and shoots them and HE gets charged with a crime?

Am I missing something in this story or is it safe to say that if you get stabbed, you have no grounds to answer with lethal force?
I would say the this Stevens guy must have been where he didn't belong. And like most young black men ran his mouth when he should have kept it shut. And shooting these men after he got in his car is premediated murder and he should have just gone to the cops but he took the law into his own hands.. Not smart on his part. Billy bad ass.
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By Unregistered on June 1st, 2008, 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by BR Today View Post
Well the article was very vague about the time that elapsed between the stabbing and the shootings. I personally can't blame the guy for what he did. 'Later' could mean 10 seconds after he was stabbed, but it could also mean 10 minutes. One way or the other, he should at least have reduced charges given the circumstances.

On a lighter note, they wouldn't have these fights over the girls there if they would quit hiring strippers with a full set of teeth. There's just not enough of 'them good ones' to go around so fights break out in the parking lot.
Doesn't matter how long it was between the fight and the shooting.. If he had a chance to leave but he chose to go get his gun and go back and kill the guys he fought with was wrong. If you have a gun you don't leave it in the car if you're planning on running your mouth. Didn't have that problem when I grew up in La.
If you got your ass kick you got you ass kick.. You don't go back with a gun and kill the guy who kicked your ass. You licked you wounds and went home.
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By BrentW on June 1st, 2008, 08:42 PM
Well, he could have at least made up an entertaining story like "But I HAD the gun. I just had to go to the car to get the damn bullets."

I'm sorry, but if two or three guys... no even if one guy attacked me with a knife and stabbed me I would go get something to kill him with. But I wouldn't have started something either. I probably would have just stayed and fought and they probably would have killed me. But I'd die trying.
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By mscyprian on June 1st, 2008, 11:02 PM
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"And like most young black men ran his mouth" sounds racist and it is also a very ignorant statement. I know many whites, mexicans and others that have been in the same situations. Let's keep this real now. STOP BEING STUPID!
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